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Can you give us an example of those abuses?

And here lies part of the problem in terms of the division within the church. You can’t blame all abuses that happen during the mass on Vatican II. Stop with causing division! Stick to your Latin mass, which I agree is more reverent, and just leave the NO mass & folks alone. Even if there was no 2nd Vatican council, there’d still be less faithful. Secularism was not started by Vatican II. Protestant service attendance has dropped, as well. We’re living in godless times. And it’s not the fault of Vatican II

YESTERDAY: I grew up in the PRE-Vatican II Church. There were eight Masses on Sunday. In EVERY Mass, the pews were not only full, but there were also hundreds of parishioners standing. The Masses were dignified, and the priests and faithful were reverent. No one wore shorts, blue jeans, halter tops and sneakers to Holy Mass. EVERYONE believed in the Real Presence (Transubstantiation), unlike today, and everyone knew, believed and could recite the Catechism (Baltimore Catechism) by heart. The lines for Confession on Saturday afternoons were long, and everyone KNEW they had to confess their sins and be absolved if they wanted to receive Holy Communion. There were 6 priests assigned to the parish (all wore cassocks, barettas and proper vestments) and living in the rectory, and the parish school had 800 students. There were 12 nuns teaching in that school dressed in full habits. Every month a new parish church or school was being built in the diocese and the diocese ran multiple Catholic hospitals and nursing homes. Every year, at least 20-25 seminarians were being ordained priests, and there were new dormitories being built to house more seminarians. And sinful relationships were NOT being blessed!!! TODAY: In the POST-Vatican II Church, it's the opposite of all of these things. Think about it. The faithful did NOT ask for Vatican II or its heresies and modernism. It was the pope, cardinals, bishops, theologians and priests who FORCED it on the faithful. Vatican II was a CALAMITY forced on the faithful. The Catholic Church in North America and Europe is DYING. If the pope and bishops were smart - but sadly they're not - they'd go back to the truths of Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture!

The ONE good thing coming out of Vatican II is that Catholics have become better acquainted with the Bible. So, when Anti-Pope Francine starts blessing HOMOSEXUAL "couples," we all know that Francine is a HERETIC because the BIBLE calls homosexuality an ABOMINATION.

Obviously, you and I were in the same parish. We were probably in the same pew, that is when we could sit in the pew, because the church was so packed, sometimes we had to stand and kneel in the aisle. Sadly, the churches are mostly empty. No/few vocations. Now, we’re blessed to even have one or two Masses on Sunday with in a drivable distance. Where I used to attend, we had seven Masses, and our church sat 1400 parishioners. ❤

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YESTERDAY: I grew up in the PRE-Vatican II Church. There were eight Masses on Sunday. In EVERY Mass, the pews were not only full, but there were also hundreds of parishioners standing. The Masses were dignified, and the priests and faithful were reverent. No one wore shorts, blue jeans, halter tops and sneakers to Holy Mass. EVERYONE believed in the Real Presence (Transubstantiation), unlike today, and everyone knew, believed and could recite the Catechism (Baltimore Catechism) by heart. The lines for Confession on Saturday afternoons were long, and everyone KNEW they had to confess their sins and be absolved if they wanted to receive Holy Communion. There were 6 priests assigned to the parish (all wore cassocks, barettas and proper vestments) and living in the rectory, and the parish school had 800 students. There were 12 nuns teaching in that school dressed in full habits. Every month a new parish church or school was being built in the diocese and the diocese ran multiple Catholic hospitals and nursing homes. Every year, at least 20-25 seminarians were being ordained priests, and there were new dormitories being built to house more seminarians. And sinful relationships were NOT being blessed!!! TODAY: In the POST-Vatican II Church, it's the opposite of all of these things. Think about it. The faithful did NOT ask for Vatican II or its heresies and modernism. It was the pope, cardinals, bishops, theologians and priests who FORCED it on the faithful. Vatican II was a CALAMITY forced on the faithful. The Catholic Church in North America and Europe is DYING. If the pope and bishops were smart - but sadly they're not - they'd go back to the truths of Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture!

The ONE good thing coming out of Vatican II is that Catholics have become better acquainted with the Bible. So, when Anti-Pope Francine starts blessing HOMOSEXUAL "couples," we all know that Francine is a HERETIC because the BIBLE calls homosexuality an ABOMINATION.

Why? Because he sits with sinners like Jesus did? "Ahhh Heretic!"

YESTERDAY: I grew up in the PRE-Vatican II Church. There were eight Masses on Sunday. In EVERY Mass, the pews were not only full, but there were also hundreds of parishioners standing. The Masses were dignified, and the priests and faithful were reverent. No one wore shorts, blue jeans, halter tops and sneakers to Holy Mass. EVERYONE believed in the Real Presence (Transubstantiation), unlike today, and everyone knew, believed and could recite the Catechism (Baltimore Catechism) by heart. The lines for Confession on Saturday afternoons were long, and everyone KNEW they had to confess their sins and be absolved if they wanted to receive Holy Communion. There were 6 priests assigned to the parish (all wore cassocks, barettas and proper vestments) and living in the rectory, and the parish school had 800 students. There were 12 nuns teaching in that school dressed in full habits. Every month a new parish church or school was being built in the diocese and the diocese ran multiple Catholic hospitals and nursing homes. Every year, at least 20-25 seminarians were being ordained priests, and there were new dormitories being built to house more seminarians. And sinful relationships were NOT being blessed!!! TODAY: In the POST-Vatican II Church, it's the opposite of all of these things. Think about it. The faithful did NOT ask for Vatican II or its heresies and modernism. It was the pope, cardinals, bishops, theologians and priests who FORCED it on the faithful. Vatican II was a CALAMITY forced on the faithful. The Catholic Church in North America and Europe is DYING. If the pope and bishops were smart - but sadly they're not - they'd go back to the truths of Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture!

The ONE good thing coming out of Vatican II is that Catholics have become better acquainted with the Bible. So, when Anti-Pope Francine starts blessing HOMOSEXUAL "couples," we all know that Francine is a HERETIC because the BIBLE calls homosexuality an ABOMINATION.

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